What if I find them of no importance & actually think them over emphasized? And lastly – I hardly ever imbibe anymore (more to do with the number of kid I have + age + have no tolerance for feeling crappy the next day) but when I do it is Captain Morgans and Coke (NEVER Pepsi). The funnier your hat….the more power you have. Only it usually turns out the other way around…’ a lot of ME and a little bit of God’. Sacraments, particularly communion is withheld to protect the person not receiving from eating and drinking their own condemnation. Still don’t agree with him, but I appreciate your bringing it up as a thought experiment. Bullying political behavior around the world, basically in every country where Catholics dominate. You see, I am afraid to go ask an actual priest this question. Institutional authoritarianism: You are right. all motion & no substance. Had Jerusalem, Constantinople, Antioch, and Alexandria been invited (albeit 500 years after the Great Schism…) *then* Trent would be considered “ecumenical”! The church often seems to really miss the days when it could bring royalty to their knees (literally) by placing a kingdom under the interdict. 3. In those days, as now, the Second Commandment of the Church obliged us to observe the laws of abstinence and fasting laid down by the Church. Ummm….don’t know how part of a word got added to my name, but it is still “Pattie” here!!! The early Church never had many of the doctrines that the Roman Catholic Church now has. It’s probably the opposite. You’re in a guys Bible study and someone says, “I can’t say the person’s name but this is what is going on…” And then they tell the story and when you are plugged into a tight knit community you can figure out who they are speaking about. You could say, I suppose, that I’m anti-Diocese of Chicago because pretty much any time they’re for a piece of legislation, I’m against it and vice versa (except on the death penalty there we both agreed. And a sin I am working on. ; ). Its Anglican….! Quite the contrary. So I got it all off my chest and you all are invited to do the same. Can’t wait to read part two. As the Church of Jerusalem, Alexandria, and Antioch have erred: so also the Church of Rome hath erred, not only in their living and manner of ceremonies, but also in matters of faith. 1. It’s all water off a duck’s back to me! Granted, the Catechism takes into consideration affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety, and other social factors that can lessen, or even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability. 39. “The transmission of human life is a most serious role in which married people collaborate freely and responsibly with God the Creator. In my Catholic days, long before Vatican II ushered in a "kinder and more gentle" brand of Roman Catholicism, it was forbidden for the Catholic faithful to taste of meat on Fridays, with certain exceptions. I experienced that when I first started, especially in the RCIA program, which to be blunt was more about the Touchy Feely Nonsens, than actual study on doctrine and dogma. Cermak, I don’t agree with Devin entirely either, but I think he’s presenting his argument pretty well. I should note that I have been given this impression mainly by people on the internet. This only occurs the first time a person wears one. My folks figured they’d give it a shot. Get free shipping, thousands of movies, and millions of streaming songs with a FREE trial of Amazon Prime at Amazon.com! Indulgences must be declared by the Pope. “If you were going to explain the faith to someone who knew nothing about it – like an alien – how would you do it?”. I bought the book). In order to prevent abuses, Catholic Church law (Canon Law) forbids the sale of Relics (Can. and i believe His priority does not include touting the most accurate doctrinal purity. Do not think of them as rules. I could go on and on. So that criterion doesn’t work. Almost all people “come to knowledge” of Christ and respond to Him through a “denomination.” It sounds like your working theory is “Jesus, yes! Some famous people in the past to have worn them are Saint Thomas More and Saint Patrick. No. You nailed it on # 2, I spent a year studying to be catholic, and had co-workers who are cradle-Catholics who admitted they needed catechesis, but where remiss to go! Of course, like all Protestants, I have some questions about sotoriology. The idea behind it is that certain acts of holiness can take the place of punishment. Episcopalians/Anglicans, as the third largest denomination in the world, and Orthodox Christians, the second largest, also wear the fiery tongue hats. Also, some saints relics are known for their extraordinary incorruptibility and so would have high regard. , As to the Latin, that would be the language of the people as it was spoke. In other words, due to the sin of Adam, we do not inherit sanctifying grace. In fact if a protestant walked up to a group of Catholics and described Sola Fida and Sola Scriptura in laymen’s terms I would bet that more than half would respond with “that’s what I believe”, precisely because they don’t know what they believe (I have seen this happen in my own extended family). Besides the Giant Puppets (cue “Happy Days are Here Again” from Soupy Sales’ opening credits), there’s the Standard Female Liturgical Dancer making the Standard Liturgical Dance Moves. This term stems from the Catholic habit of refusing to eat meat on Fridays. The reason for this was that the temptation to worship the image was strong for them. It’s a tenuous position at best, and the fact that there *are* mistakes in the bible, shows just how authentic it really is. We are asking the Lord to use this local body, a small expression of his Kingdom, for his own glory and praise. The Pope must be speaking with the full authority of the Papacy, and not in a personal capacity. And almost every sect of Protestantism that exists. Keep up the good posts and don’t work too hard!! Not that one, but sounds like a winner it does…. Wymynprysts are incapable of confecting the Eucharist, and one has to wonder about the priest who loathes his duty to perform “cracker worship”, but, as truly awful and horrible as it is, there may be valid Consecrations of the Eucharist amidst the dancing twits and giant puppets. I rather like it without quite having bought it (the argument for transubstantiation, not the book. Opened for Judas Priest once, which is delicious. Matthew, this forwards to another web address. I can totally imagine having great respect for Tradition and current teaching, and having an active dialog with it and remaining under its direction as far as conscience allows. Things the catholic church forbids. It is also alleged that Saint Pio was able to bi-locate (appear in two places at once) and to read the sins on a person’s soul. If someone were to ask me what I think of Catholicism or the Pope, then I’d reply, “But I don’t think of them.” It is a waste of time trying to prove or disprove the theological system of another. to establish a unified Catholic Church. Institutional authoritarianism. And I am not sure if this is really considered a good thing, or even permissible. , Lauri Lumby Not allowed to receive Sacraments. Articles. He tells you it’s “hedonistically delicious”! 2464 The eighth commandment forbids misrepresenting the truth in our relations with others. My second cousin was divorced and was prohibited from getting communion. How many have had this expereince? The massacre of the Waldenses. — Interview with Chaplain Mike, Faith in Action — Interview with Damaris Zehner, A Post-Doom Conversation with Damaris Zehner, The Coming Evangelical Collapse – Eleven Years In, Dr. Fauci on his proudest moment from the pandemic so far — and the darkest, Michael Spencer’s Prophetic Words on Full Display, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 License. The Pope must be making a decree on matters of faith or moralsII. It is considered by Catholics, therefore, to be appropriate to worship and adore the changed objects. But we’re already here, we’re already settled, and we don’t want to upset things. The name is just confusing. We believe in a “personal” Savior after all. I could believe by reciting the creeds, by contemplating the gospel story, not be interrogating myself or feeling that I had to resolve everything. I was probably really obnoxious and showing-off, now I come to think of it, but once she referred to where I was sitting as “the Seat of Wisdom” (which was a joke and meant to be one, and which actually was funny, because for you non-Catholics, that’s a phrase straight out of the Litany of Loretto). I spent two years looking for one before I finally realized it was a hopeless task (I’m slow that way sometimes). Do I choose a church (RC, Orthodox, or Coptic) with the longest traditions? but as to your concern with not interacting with the argument….. XIX. There are three categories of relics (from wikipedia): Items directly associated with the events of Christ’s life (manger, cross, etc. The wearing of a cord or cincture in honour of a saint is of very ancient origin, and we find the first mention of it in the life of St. Monica. This abuse partly contributed to the sparking off of the protestant reformation. “thou shall gossip and do it in thy name of prayer… and the more people that know of one’s shortcoming the better thy be! And, Catholics who wrongly claim those old anathemas don’t apply anymore, and that you can believe in justification by grace though faith alone and the Gospel’s assurance of salvation and be Catholic. 1. etc. For me it is the covering up and protecting for child rapist. The change is in meaning–that it it then means that it is the body and blood but the same is true of Consubstantiation they say it becomes body and blood too. It takes a whole lotta grace and faith not to repear juciy stories…it seems to be human nature. ‘I see that this new Pilate is so brutal “5. God doesn’t seem to be the Grand Respecter of church doctrine+history+tradition as some wish to make Him out to be. (Cue Monty Python, “Every Sperm is Sacred”) And is it my imagination, or does the Church forbid oral sex as well? That is exactly why Luther called the Catholic Church and the Anabaptists (the forerunners of today’s Evangelicals), “two wolves tied at the tail”. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 3.0 License. Regarding authority and believing 90%, I would do a thought experiment where you substitute “Jesus” for “Catholic Church” and ask yourself the same questions. If you would like to join, email Chaplain Mike, and you'll receive an invitation. So Catholics can say that they are saved by grace through faith alone, and it does not resemble what our ‘grace through faith alone’ is. I tell my Catholic friends that if I accepted thier pre-suppositons regarding the authority of tradition, I would wave to the Bishop of Rome as I sail on past Rome on my way to our Orthodox friends in Antioch and Jerusalem….. I am not sure how coherent I am.]. In fact, the Council of Florence declared that “no food, which society admits, is to be condemned”. Paul…I love Martha a lot. Jack, don’t hold your breath on the homosexuality thing. The abstinence from meat … So American Catholic bishops of dioceses with large Irish populations routinely grant general dispensations, so as to maintain the fiction that they can tell the laity what to do. The Catholic Church opposes all forms of abortion procedures whose direct purpose is to destroy a zygote, blastocyst, embryo or fetus, since it holds that "human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. Know that committing a mortal sin is not something that “just happens.” It has to be deliberate, and be a grave issue, with full knowledge that it is so. This meant that when the nun (hi, Sr. Unfortunately, I want both. (Should’ve never relaxed the laws on Usery) ; ). Every Monday through Friday night for years and years he has done a “Top Ten” list. Yet that does not obviate the ministerial priesthood. St. Ignatius was using hyperbole here. Site banners: Michael Buckley Sacraments, particularly communion is withheld to protect the person not receiving from eating and drinking their own condemnation. The implications and applications of central principles is always hairy, for one, and our societies and knowledge bases also change. 5. Mind you, this is what gets us lumped in with the Mormons (and I don’t know if it’s us or the Mormons who should be more offended by the comparison; after all, everyone can agree that the Mormons are hard-working family folk who send out as missionaries nice, clean-cut young men who know their faith and don’t indulge in bad dietary choices like fizzy drinks or caffeine, not to mention the Demon Drink, and Catholics – well, um, not so much?). But the style of Latin used by the Church still differs in notable ways from the (believed) pronunciation of Caesar-era Latin, deriving as it does from a later, less literary form of the language (zing!). for all the jot-and-tittle wrangling of ‘true’ Church claims vs. having the most accurate understanding of biblical concepts, there was no perceptible difference in those that received all the sacramental grace available to them in the RCC or those that claimed pure grace enlightenment from a Protestant perspective. I agree that every Christian is, in a sense, a priest. Not Christ Bishops ordained in historic epsicopy. I don’t know if open communion is an ABC thing or not. Nothing more than that, or we might as well swim over to Rome? That is relativism and a contradiction (i.e. “Here I am Lord”? THe Church teaches that all persons are to be respected because of their humanity. So the force of your argument is not lost on me. 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