Sounded just horrific so I am hoping for a really high However, in early stages, the cartilage layer is intact, and the lesions may not be seen at arthroscopy. Kaplan P. Musculoskeletal MRI. IF I could get that cartilage issue fixed surgically again would it bring back more mobility allowing me to walk correctly dispersing my weight more evenly on my joints and giving my now arthritic joint some rest and relief. Good Luck. But I am positive that is not correct (the arthritis I know is true but I know I didn’t have a flat foot). Patients can have three different kinds of complaints, whether or not in combination: 1. Radiology. Dr. Lyon, I’m glad that I came across your blog on ankle OCD where you offered insights on this condition for kids. The right ankle appears to be much better, but the left ankle has had two surgeries and it hurts so terribly bad. Shell osteochondral allografts of the knee: comparison of mr imaging findings and immunologic responses. When they tell you that you will need 18 months of recovery, think “1 and a half years” and comprehend that!!!! In some cases, you or your doctor will be able to feel a loose fragment inside your joint. There are lots of factors that determine the success rate of treatments for ankle (talus) OCD. I am 51 years old, I did the 2 months with no wt bearing then minimal. It was done arthroscopically with bone and marrow graft three years ago. I am scheduled to have this procedure done on 8/21/12. I am 28 years old. Can anyone share their experiences on this surgery. I got another doc on my own last week he said Surgery MRI is the modality of choice, with high sensitivity and specificity for the detection of separation of the osteochondral fragment (see: osteochondral injury staging and osteochondritis dissecans surgical staging). Since every situation is different it is best to have your doctor address these questions. There are several option for treatment of pain but unless the lesion has healed at least partially the pain will likely continue. This term refers to a wide spectrum of pathologies including mild bone marrow contusion as well as severe osteoarthritis resulting from long standing disease. Gorbachova T, Melenevsky Y, Cohen M, Cerniglia BW. The surgeon told me that it had developed from a bone cyst from an old injury because my lesion was 8mm x 11mm. The osteochondritis dissecans lesion is an area of the bone within a joint that has deterioration and softening and subsequent overlying cartilage damage. How many months does it take to see healing on an MRI generally? There is probably a small chance of healing with the current plan of bone stimulator and restricted weight bearing. Osteochondral defects (OCD) or lesions (OCL) are focal areas of damage with articular cartilage damage and injury of the adjacent subchondral bone plate and subchondral cancellous bone. anterior aspect of lateral femoral chondyle and posterolateral tibial plateau Sheila Felix. 5. Physical findings are relatively minimal with pain to palpation over the anterior aspect of the ankle. surgery is contraindicated for Panner disease (unlike OCD elbow) Prognosis. Do you think sugry is a good idea? Glossary of terms for musculoskeletal radiology. The talar body has a curved smooth trochlear surface also termed the talar dome, which is covered with hyaline cartilage and convex from front to back. Can you suggest any thing that can help my situation? Thanks It does behoove the treating physician to remain persistent in the treatment plan and for the child and parents to remain patient with the often slow healing process. Systematic review of treatment strategies for osteochondral defects of the talar dome. i am facing Osteo-chonodral lesion of Talus OLT in my ancle since 2 years.Sometimes i get pains after more exercion or standing.Thinning of articular cartilage seen wt erosions in latest MRI. Kate did you ever get an answer and did you make it thru your senior season? A nationwide medical malpractice insurance program, designed exclusively for Orthopaedic Surgeons.. Ortho Preferred® brings professional liability insurance for Orthopaedic Surgeons to a new level. I an blue on the foot it’s swollen worse and the antiflamator meds meloxicam is a dangerous med I won’t take. Fixation of these lesions can be performed using metal screws, wires, or bioabsorbable nails. The doctor removed a big piece of bone that was loose and laying over the old surgical site. I have the pain in my left ankle since April 2015. prognosis based on physeal status. A fragment of the lesion is sometimes loose and either removal or repair such as fixation with a screw is necessary. Debridement of the lesion is an operative procedure which removes the dead (necrotic) to promote healing stimulation of the lesion and underlying bone. Rothman has several ankle doctors, however, i would recommend Dr. Pedowitz. Osteochondral defect is a broad term that describes the morphological change of a localized gap in the articular cartilage and subchondral bone 5. Any suggestions I am desperate now because I am on my feet all the time for work. Personally, I would like to go ahead and get both ankles replaced, but the doctor is saying that the longevity of the replacements are not known past 15 years. He sent me back to work full duty and physical therapy 4 days a week 4 weeks total and lift 15 lbs with foot every day If the surgical treatment is well matched to the specifics of the lesion the success can be around 80 to 90%. He also said that if I still have pain, it’s better to do Ankle arthroscopy. I asked for a referral to Penn State Hershey Medical (takes 3 months to get in) Loose pieces of bone and cartilage can even break off into the joint. Options for procedures are determined by the size and location of the lesion and also several patient characteristics. The cause of osteochondritis dissecans is not fully understood. any advice. Most of the talus is covered by cartilage. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Your surgeon should be the best one to answer the questions you have because they know the specifics of your case. I do not do sports and I have a job where I am not on my feet all day so that is a plus. Do you think sugry is a good idea? There is not a limit to the number of operations but any operation needs to fully address the core problem to get to a solution. Associated complications can include pin migration, adjacent cartilage damage, hardware failure, failure of healing and the need for repeat surgery. My son had been playing soccer for many years and this summer he was diagnosed with ankle OCD. Hi Sandy , I have the exact same issue as your son – can you please email me ? Fresh osteochondral allograft is a procedure which is done on very large lesions. Osteochondral Lesions of the Knee: Differentiating the Most Common Entities at MRI. thank you for your useful discussion. Dr Lyon, I used simple language because I am an English learner. Some more advancement lesions need to be managed surgically. In young children, OCD normally heals with rest, as the bones are still growing. My 10 year old daughter has been NWB and in a boot for 3 months, then 4 months no impact and the recent MRI is almost identical to the one 7 months ago (no better, no worse, stable lesion), Your email address will not be published. MRI is the single best study for both the diagnosis and prognosis of the osteochondritis dissecans lesion of the talus. The findings from the MRI he did this summer says “A 1.2 x 0.9 x 0.6 cm osteochondral lesion is seen involving the medial talar dome with mild thinning of the underlying cartilage and slight adjacent bone marrow edema.” After more than 3 months of physical therapy we did see some improvements, but the pain didn’t completely gone. fractures involving a single facial buttress, Meyers and McKeevers classification (anterior cruciate ligament avulsion fracture), Watson-Jones classification (tibial tuberosity avulsion fracture), Nunley-Vertullo classification (Lisfranc injury), pelvis and lower limb fractures by region. Thank you, Hello, Operative treatment is the treatment of choice for patients with unstable or detached lesions or failed non-operative management and for patients that are at or past skeletal maturity. Good Luck with this difficult situation. OCD is most common in the knee joint, but it can happen in other joints such as the elbow and ankle. With that in consideration, embarking on a period of non-surgical management is ideal, but the results in the literature suggest that you should be prepared to proceed with surgical intervention if this treatment fails. Foot Ankle Clin 2003;8:233-242. As a child I had lots of ankle problems they tried to correct it with first a brace, then a boot, then a cast, and finally I had surgery around 12 years old, I remember being told that the surgery could fix it forever or it could come back as an adult and I may have to have the surgery again. account for 10.4% of talus fractures; talar head fracture. Most cases of osteochondritis dissecans do not run in families. Long term ramifications may even include arthritis. My fear is that if I push through the season, could it potentially make my ankle more painful at normal activity for the rest of my life? Overview. With proper diligence most patients can be treated to full resolution of symptoms and radiographic appearance. Is there hope to get it fixed? Your comment is the only legit result when searching for osteochondrosis and amputation. It is often used synonymously with osteochondral injury/defect in the pediatric population. Often patients need to undergo a period of non-weight bearing with either cast or brace immobilization to promote healing for approximately 1-2 months after surgery. Ron, Thank you for your input. I wish you and your daughter the best in dealing with this situation. Radiographics. Your surgeon would be the best person to address these issue and questions you bring up. That being said, I’m not really sure what I should be doing. The recognized sites of osteochondral defects are: Osteochondral injuries are graded according to the stability and location of the fragment and presence of secondary degenerative changes (see: osteochondral injury staging). Stage 2 is a partially detached osteochondral fragment. I had to see the doctor again and I got my MRI done in October 2015. Our understanding of Osteochondritis dissecans of the talus is continually evolving, but there is general acceptance that these lesions are similar to those found in other joints, including the knee. Do you feel there is potential for her lesion to resolve in this period of time? Please note that OCD is a commonly used abbreviation for both osteochondral defect and osteochondritis dissecans, two closely related conditions. 6. Osteochondritis dissecans (OCD) most commonly affects the knee. I have now said ENOUGH! Please address this with your surgeon because they know your situation best. Unable to process the form. Sanders TG, Paruchuri NB, Zlatkin MB. Osteochondral allograft or autograft which is performed on large lesions is a procedure which is either done with using another piece of bone to fill in the lesion. OCD usually causes pain during and after sports. I am suffering OCD, undiagnosed for three years and now being told immediate surgery. If the fixation of the lesion is not possible and the lesion needs to be debrided there are several salvage techniques for full thickness defects including marrow stimulation techniques (ie micro fracture), autogulous chondrocyte implantation, osteochondral autograft transplantation and osteochondral allograft transplantation. Finally last year I went in to see the doctor. During this period I tried Physiotherapy but the pain never receded. Well, the pain right now is not that bad as it used to be in October 2015 through April 2016. Can you suggest any thing that can help my situation? Thanks. You’ve helped relieve me of my apprehension and fears by mentioning my doctor by name. I was diagnosed with OCD in both of my ankles, when I was 11 years old. Lesions that are symptomatically resolved but not radiographically resolved need persistent follow up even if the child has returned to full physical activity. I’m trying to make a decision whether or not to have surgery done on my 15-year old son’s right ankle. Then applying the surgical technique which will be most successful achieving the goal. Hello, Will gel or cortisone injections help? I have had surgery for ocd of my R ankle. and the surgeon there told me that I would have the best outcome from a Mosaicplasty and partial Brostrom since my ankle was also unstable. 2006;187 (5): 1332-7. I had a meeting with The surgeon few weeks ago, and he said that I am only in stage 1. Hang in there if you are in it! I was in pain for almost 4 years. Osteochondritis dissecans (OCD) is a condition that develops in joints, most often in children and adolescents. Some days are mine, some days I feel too much pain. Sparing the blood supply. As an orthopaedic surgeon specializing in treating OCD lesions in children, not all treatments are 100% successful. only advice is if at all possible, (i do not know where you live) go to Rothman Institute in the Philadelphia Pa. area. Same here, 14 yrs, 5 surgeries Inc microfracture, it just gets worse, (last op 3x worse!) Unless the injury is extensive, it may take months, a year or even longer for symptoms to develop. 2001;219 (1): 35-43. It would have saved me a lot of frustration and worry! • Verhagen et al. incidence 69% of ankle fractures; 70% of ankle sprains; 10% are bilateral This can result in detachment of the softened bone and cartilage leaving a crater in the bone that is exposed to the joint surface and a loose fragment within the joint. He also said that if I still have pain, it’s better to do Ankle arthroscopy. We had scheduled surgery for Feb. 25 but decided to cancel and try a period of non weightbearing for 6 weeks followed up by 3-6 weeks of progressive weightbearing to see if her bone could heal during this time. Conservative treatment of osteochondral lesions of the talus (OLTs) should be attempted first, whenever possible. There is often a history of multiple ankle problems that do not have a clear cause or diagnosis. Treatment principles of osteochondral lesions of the ta… My 12 y/o daughter was diagnosed with OCD of the talonavicular joint in December of 2014. If the lesion is unstable or hinged, fixation is often indicated in an attempt to heal the lesion back to native bone. Recht MP, Kramer J. MR imaging of the postoperative knee: a pictorial essay. I read al of your stories and I am so sorry about all what happened to you because I know how the pain feels. I have OCD in both ankles, it hurts,hurts, hurts,. Maybe because of the weather!! Osteochondritis Dissecans is an acquired joint defect which involves the subchondral bone and the overlying articular cartilage. Isolated lesions of cartilage or subchondral bone are not considered an OCD 6. The surgery may have been 17 years ago but I remember a little and what I remember is that they went in there to replace or repair some cartilage between two bones that were rubbing together that shouldn’t have been and that’s what was causing my pain, my constant twisting my ankle, and falls because my ankle would go out on me. Sincerely If you don’t mind I would like to ask if you really went that way and if you could share your experience. Children’s Hospital of Wisconsin. Please note that OCD is a commonly used abbreviation for both osteochondral defect and osteochondritis dissecans, two closely related conditions. Should we consider surgery or continue the conservative treatment? Pediatric Orthopaedic Society of North America (POSNA) 1 Tower Ln, Suite 2410 Oakbrook Terrace, IL 60181 p: (630) 478-0480 f: (630) 478-0481 e: posna@posna.org © 2018 Osteochondritis Dissecans | Site by Yakadanda, Research in Osteochondritis of the Knee OCD Study Group of America. Since the lesion is 7 x 4.5 x 11 mm. 3. They also have some offices in New Jersey. I had micro fx done Jan of 2014 then allografting June of this year. Pain is back….achey and hurts to walk on. To demonstrate talar neck - place ankle in equinus, place foot on cassette and pronate 15°, x-ray tube is directed cephalad at a 75° from the horizontal. I am having pain if I am setting more that if I am walking and when I am standing which I dont know why. Introduction: Spectrum of disease entities from single, focal defects to advanced degenerative disease of articular (hyaline) cartilage; Epidemiology. Curruently I am not taking any medicine. As mentioned above, there are many back-up plans that can be undertaken given each child’s individual needs. We tried orthotics and activity restrictions for a few weeks but pain worsened. Well, the pain right now is not that bad as it used to be in October 2015 through April 2016. Some days are mine, some days I feel too much pain. We think that it is at least partially caused by a change in the blood flow in the bone around a joint that makes the bone sick. Panner's disease (osteochondrosis of the capitellum) typically presents in first decade of life (<10 years old) usually benign self-limiting course. Surgical attempts to improve the healing of the osteochondritis dissecans lesion to the native bone, stabilize loose fragments or to replace defective tissue with either an autograft or allograft transfer osteochondral tissue. This is not an uncommon situation. My doctor wants to fuse my ankle but once he told me it could cause arthritis in other joints I really don’t want to do that, I’m only 29 I really don’t want arthritis all over my foot and ankle by 35 if I can avoid it. Non-surgical treatment is the treatment of choice for small skeletal lesions in skeletally immature patients with no signs of instability on a MRI. They had me to go back to work. Osteochondritis dissecans of the ankle tends to have a low level of chronic persistent pain, a variable amount of swelling which is often intermittent and not severe. When initially assessing a child with evidence of this pathologic process, one should first consider the skeletal maturity. 1/14/2020. no surgeries yet. When osteochondritis dissecans affects the ankle it typically occurs on the inner or medial portion of the ankle (talus). When the latter is present, then joint replacement is often the only feasible treatment. Sandy, My wonder is is this condition covered under SSID because the recovery time alone is longer than my FMLA. The pain started with stabbing while I was working. besides gg for operation, are there any other non operative method ? She will use an electrical bone stimulator during this time as well. Discussions with your surgeon should help figure out how to proceed if your previous surgery was not successful. To date there is no clear data regarding the benefits of these adjunct therapies. only surgery so far was to repair the Tibia at my left ankle. Arthroscopy can be useful to check the posterior subtalar joint, to which access is limited. I had to see the doctor again and I got my MRI done in October 2015. ... Orthobullets Team Trauma - Talus Fracture (other than neck) Listen Now 14:39 min. Osteochondritis dissecans can often be a progressive pathologic process: evolving to joint deformity and occasionally bone and cartilage fragmentation to intra-articular cartilage instability. Doctor is suggesting me Osteoarticular transfer system surgery. The purpose of this study was to evaluate the clinical and radiographic outcomes of conservative and primary surgically treated osteochondral talar defects in skeletally immature children. Treating osteochondral lesions of the talus can pose challenges and delayed diagnosis due to late presentation after an ankle sprain. It has been 21 years since my surgery and I have had no problems up until a year ago. I have had arthroscopic surgeries, thus far. This softening is caused by an interruption in the blood flow to that portion of the bone. Although the exact cause of osteochondritis dissecans is unknown, there are several factors such as high demand impact sports, underlying disease conditions, local bone blood flow and genetic factors. Osteochondritis dissecans (OCD or OD) is a joint disorder primarily of the subchondral bone in which cracks form in the articular cartilage and the underlying subchondral bone. Carol Yeater, In later stages of the disorder there will be swelling of the affected joint which catches and locks during movement. {"url":"/signup-modal-props.json?lang=us\u0026email="}, {"containerId":"expandableQuestionsContainer","displayRelatedArticles":true,"displayNextQuestion":true,"displaySkipQuestion":true,"articleId":1795,"mcqUrl":"https://radiopaedia.org/articles/osteochondral-defect/questions/571?lang=us"}, Figure 1: Berndt and Harty classification for talus, osteochondritis dissecans surgical staging, Gustilo Anderson classification (compound fracture), longitudinal versus transverse petrous temporal bone fracture, naso-orbitoethmoid (NOE) complex fracture, cervical spine fracture classification systems, AO classification of upper cervical injuries, Roy-Camille classification (odontoid process fracture ), subaxial cervical spine injury classification (SLIC), thoracolumbar spinal fracture classification systems, AO classification of thoracolumbar injuries, thoracolumbar injury classification and severity score (TLICS), Rockwood classification (acromioclavicular joint injury), Neer classification (proximal humeral fracture), AO classification (proximal humeral fracture), Milch classification (lateral humeral condyle fracture), Weiss classification (lateral humeral condyle fracture), Bado classification of Monteggia fracture-dislocations (radius-ulna), Mason classification (radial head fracture), Frykman classification (distal radial fracture), Hintermann classification (gamekeeper's thumb), Eaton classification (volar plate avulsion injury), Keifhaber-Stern classification (volar plate avulsion injury), Judet and Letournel classification (acetabular fracture), Harris classification (acetebular fracture), Young and Burgess classification of pelvic ring fractures, Pipkin classification (femoral head fracture), American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons classification (periprosthetic hip fracture), Cooke and Newman classification (periprosthetic hip fracture), Johansson classification (periprosthetic hip fracture), Vancouver classification (periprosthetic hip fracture), Winquist classification (femoral shaft fracture), Schatzker classification (tibial plateau fracture), Lauge-Hansen classification (ankle injury), Danis-Weber classification (ankle fracture), Berndt and Harty classification (osteochondral lesions of the talus), Sanders CT classification (calcaneal fracture), Hawkins classification (talar neck fracture), anterior superior iliac spine (ASIS) avulsion, anterior cruciate ligament avulsion fracture, posterior cruciate ligament avulsion fracture, avulsion fracture of the proximal 5th metatarsal, Ahlback classification system in assessing osteoarthritis of the knee joint, Kellgren and Lawrence system for classification of osteoarthritis, pattern of bone contusion in knee injuries, anterior cruciate ligament mucoid degeneration, MRI grading system for meniscal signal intensity, musculoskeletal manifestations of rheumatoid arthritis, rapidly destructive osteoarthritis of the hip, scaphotrapeziotrapezoidal (STT) arthritis, calcium pyrophosphate dihydrate deposition disease, hydroxyapatite crystal deposition disease (HADD), postsurgical (e.g. I’m traveling an hour and a half to see him and I feel it is worth it. So I went in clueless. Surgery can be a reasonable approach in cases where nonoperative treatments have not resulted in healing of the lesion after 3-6 months. Hope, Fifty ankles in 50 patients treated with arthroscopic bone marrow stimulation techniques for an osteochondral lesion of the talus (<150 mm 2) were evaluated for prognostic factors.The patients were 22 men and 28 women (mean age, 35.0 years). Snowboarder’s talus fracture: treatment outcome of 20 cases after 3.5 years. Both magnetic resonance (MR) imaging and ankle arthroscopy are excellent tools commonly used to evaluate ankle cartilage (3–5). I am very grateful I opted for that because I think my outcome has been better, but initially I had a great deal more pain. Relative to osteochondritis dissecans of the knee, the ankle lesions tend to be smaller, more difficult to diagnose and less likely to heal despite treatment efforts. Your doctor will also check other structures around the joint, such as the ligaments.Your doctor will also ask you to move your joint in different directions to see whether the joint can move smoothly through its normal range of motion. How many surgeries can the talus go through? The pain started with stabbing while I was working. The treatment for stable lesions with intact articular cartilage often involves drilling the subchondral bone with the intention of stimulating vascular ingrowth and subchondral bone healing. From what we have been told, this condition is rare in this particular joint and have been unable to find much information on treatment/outcomes. I am 28 years old. Charles, 2. tomorrow with Dr. Pedowitz for my follow up after my CT Scan to talk surgery for my OCD and hardware removal from a trimalleolar fracture 6 years ago. An orthopedic surgeon specializing in this condition (such as a ROCK member) is your best bet in getting the best treatment. Sirlin CB, Brossmann J, Boutin RD et-al. The risk for ankle OCD for age group, sex, and ethnicity was assessed using multivariate logistic regression models. The practice still had me on record as a patient but no record of what I had done, my parents couldn’t remember what it was called either. Any recommendations concerning new treatment needs to be based on what a new evaluation shows. The talus has been described as having three main components: head, neck, and body. Mild OCD: A piece of bone has begun to separate from the joint, but this piece is still firmly held in place by a covering of cartilage (dense elastic tissue that helps cushion the joint). The pain is very minimal when I walk around, but is much much higher when I jump and is impacting my jumping significantly. AJR Am J Roentgenol. I intend to see another doctor, but until then possibly you can give me hope as the OCD sounds to be dead on. My concern now it that the “catching” and pain is back and my ankle seems to give out more. Deborah, No ankle OCD lesions were found in 2- to 5-year-olds. If non-operative treatments have failed to control symptoms after a period of 3-9 months other forms of more invasive treatment may be necessary. Presentely i m bearing t pain without painkiller.Doctor r recommending for Arthroscopy. The goal of non-operative treatment is to promote healing in the subchondral bone and prevent chondral collapse, subsequent fracture and significant crater formation. OCD usually causes pain in the involved joint. I had an old injury to my ankle that never really healed well and then in 2012 I twisted it rather severely. Thank you. Both x-rays and CT are able to detect displaced defects with ease. It is not uncommon for lesions that are unresolved radiographically to have reoccurrence of symptoms when activities resume or within 6-12 months of initial treatment. Medical College of Wisconsin[/box], Dr. Ben Heyworth is an Orthopedic Surgeon specializing in Orthopedic Surgery, Onset is between childhood and middle age, with the majority of patients being between 10 and 40 years of age, with approximately a 2:1 male to female ratio 3. Good Luck with your situation. 5-10% of people > 40 years old have high grade chondral lesions; location. I don’t want another surgery. While the recovery time with an arthroscopy was much shorter I did see in my research that the larger lesions responded better to mosaicplasty so I opted for that procedure. I’m a 20 year old collegiate track and field athlete and I was just diagnosed with OCD this past fall. It is now 4 yrs from my injury and while I cannot say I am totally pain free, it is tolerable. I had the surgery in Jan 2014 and its worse now than before surgery. Symptoms often resolving after a period of non weight bearing and activity modifications but rarely does the lesion resolve radiographically. What is your opinion on replacement surgeries? These are typically monitored by interval radiographs and occasional use repeat MRIs. I am sorry to hear about your son. This procedure requires the fresh graft to be obtained by a donor and once graft is obtained needs to be done on “urgent” basis; usually within 10 days while the graft is still “fresh”. He injected it I felt the stab stab and then it was like two bags he went through the pain was horrible and I have had 5 kids pain meds free. For he past year, I have been places in several casts, on crutches, and had steroid injections. Do you have any suggestions on how I can still finish my senior season? Operative treatment also provides the benefit of a more dynamic assessment of the lesion and the severity of lesion instability and assessment of injury to the overlying cartilage. Any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. 1. repetitive throwing / valgus stress and gymnastics / weight bearing on upper extremity 1.1. valgus stress / compressive force on the vulnerable chondroepiphysis of the radiocapitellar joint in skeletally immature patients is supported as the etiology for OCD of the capitellum 8 2. ankle sprain/instability 2.1. 4. It connects your foot to the two bones in your lower leg — the tibia and fibula — that make up the top part of the ankle. It took workers comp from April till yesterday July 20 to get me a specialist. The workers comp doctor was more involved in if I liked my job and if I was fired. If you need another opinion seeking out one of the ROCK members for an evaluation is worth considering. Osteochondritis dissecans, unspecified ankle and joints of foot. Hurts, hurts, hurts, hurts, often in children, OCD normally with. Now 4 yrs from my injury and while I can not say I am totally pain free, it gets... 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